User talk:Spoel
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[edit] Wikimaster
Just wondering who the "wikimaster" is, i.e. who has ability to configure things etc? As that will be the person for me to bug about the below issues :-) --Dr DBW 03:57, 22 May 2007 (CEST)
[edit] Navigation Bar
David, to configure the navigation bar you use the following link MediaWiki:Sidebar. Then can configure it to say and link to what every you want. Also possible to break it up into sections, like the MediaWiki website is, makes it easier for people to navigate their way around.
Information on how it works is here: Manual:Navigation bar. --Dr DBW 01:16, 22 May 2007 (CEST)
- To edit this page, requires the user performing the editing to be a sysop. --Dr DBW 00:46, 25 May 2007 (CEST)
OK, how do I make you a Sysop? Also, I tried to import an previously exported file but that requires sysop privs as well (which I don't have apparently :))--Spoel 07:25, 1 June 2007 (CEST)
- Read the next section below, User talk:Spoel#Sysop. You either log in as WikiSysop (created when wiki installed), go to Special:Specialpages and down the bottom will be options to change user groups etc, or edit the user table in the DB directly. --Dr DBW 21:53, 3 June 2007 (CEST)
OK, try hacking now!--Spoel 15:27, 4 June 2007 (CEST)
- Thanks :-) and it works. Have removed a couple of links that we aren't using currently. Discussion on how to lay out the menu is here: MediaWiki_talk:Sidebar. Pretty sure any user should be able to edit the talk page. --Dr DBW 21:40, 4 June 2007 (CEST)
[edit] Sysop
Few features that these users are able to do by default (edit navigation bar/menu, delete pages, rollback pages) means would be handy to have number of users as members of this usergroup. They are something like an administrator. Default with installation is that the WikiSysop, created and defined with each new installation, is the only sysop and bureaucrat (can change a user's usergroup). Therefore, to change any user to a sysop, needs to be done via this user (or editing the user groups table directly in the database). --Dr DBW 00:46, 25 May 2007 (CEST)
- David, recommend that you make your own user, Spoel, a member of the sysop and bureaucrats user groups. Then you have the ability to do all the administration things when ever you visit here (without having to use WikiSysop). --Dr DBW 00:28, 5 June 2007 (CEST)
[edit] File Uploading
That going to be allowed? How that is done is noted here: Manual:Configuration Settings Uploads --Dr DBW 03:57, 22 May 2007 (CEST)
- We can limit this ability to a particular user group if required, i.e. can limit the current sysop members to it, or create a new user group, such as editor', or something like that. Plus, have full control over what file extensions are allowed. Can black list some and list those that are allowed. --Dr DBW 00:26, 5 June 2007 (CEST)
[edit] Editing Permissions
Would recommend that not allow open slatter with editing the wiki. Reason is, insufficient people and activity to warrent it. As soon as it makes it into the search engine databases, spambots will start hitting it, and that can be a real pain to edit and handle. --Dr DBW 03:57, 22 May 2007 (CEST)
- What do you mean "open slatter"?
- Sorry, stupid Australian slang there I suppose. What that means is that everyone and anyone, even anything, can edit the pages. This is how wikipedia is, but for something with only a few people involed like this, simply would not be able to keep up with the vandalism and spambots. --Dr DBW 23:02, 22 May 2007 (CEST)
Actually the slang is spelled "open slather" which is probably just as impenetrable to non-Australians :-) Mabraham 01:38, 23 May 2007 (CEST)
- This has now been setup and configured that you have to be registered and logged in to be able to edit the wiki. That is a good start. Next level is having email authentication, so that an email is sent to the person registering, so that they can reply, say they are or have the email address they say they do, then start editing. Issue is appears on this server the email feature does not work. I don't believe it is a MediaWiki issue, as any installation I have done, it just works straight up. Is sendmail available on the server? --Dr DBW 00:03, 25 May 2007 (CEST)
[edit] Spam Blacklist
Just a note for future reference if we require it. There is a spamblack list available (installation instructions) that can assist with dealing with the issue if it comes to it. --Dr DBW 00:09, 25 May 2007 (CEST)
[edit] Enabling Formula Rendering
There is a part of MediaWiki that enables the use of a subset of TeX markup, for mathematical formulae. You can see what it can do here: Help:Displaying a formula. For this to work, need to have a program (texvc) compiled on the server. This program, make file etc, are already provided with MediaWiki and are located in the /math directory. Instructions on how to compile in the README file, which is actually just running make. Once it is compiled, (and configuration settings changed in LocalSettings.php [1]) then will be able to use it. --Dr DBW 00:22, 25 May 2007 (CEST)
Done. Loads of fun installing obscure packages on obscure operating systems.--Spoel 13:29, 26 May 2007 (CEST)
Unfortunately something's still broken with the PNG rendering (according to the system error messages I saw on the Errors page on the first time I loaded it today - but they haven't appeared subsequently), such as "convert" or the like being missing. --Mabraham 01:12, 28 May 2007 (CEST)
- Yes, I have just been playing with it. I turned it on, got the error, then immediately turned it off again. Seems like your fun is going to continue David. There has to be operating installations in the path of latex and dvipng. The other two that are required for this formula rending to work, gs and convert, are both already installed and available so don't worry about them. FYI, this is noted in the README file in /maths --Dr DBW 01:23, 28 May 2007 (CEST)
Try once more guys. I downloaded the cjk-latex as well, but don't know how to install it.--Spoel 19:57, 28 May 2007 (CEST)
- Works and is now operational :-) --Dr DBW 22:33, 28 May 2007 (CEST)
[edit] Chemical Structures
For future reference, possible to have LaTeX objects for displaying things like molecular formula and graphing data using Wikitex. --Dr DBW 04:47, 28 May 2007 (CEST)
I particularly like the Lilypond stuff. --Spoel 20:00, 28 May 2007 (CEST)
[edit] Manual Pages
See User_talk:Dr_DBW/Manual_Pages#How_Manual_Pages_Will_Work --Dr DBW 01:33, 12 June 2007 (CEST)
[edit] Underscores in Page Titles
David, talked to one of the developers of MediaWiki and it is not currently possible to have underscores in the page titles. That are all simply converted to a space. To quote: "It's a failing of MediaWiki at the moment that we do plan to rectify eventually." NB: underscores in links provided however, are maintained e.g. g_rdf --Dr DBW 08:33, 15 June 2007 (CEST)
[edit] Writing Rights
David, can you give me rights to upload files and create directories within the extensions subdirectory of the MediaWiki installation? Looking to install and test some extensions to do some additional things. --Dr DBW 02:10, 4 July 2007 (CEST)
Should work now.--Spoel 07:54, 4 July 2007 (CEST)
